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	<title>Comments on: Getting Fieldset Backgrounds and Legends to Behave in IE</title>
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		<title>By: NaM - The French frog x)</title>
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		<dc:creator>NaM - The French frog x)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot for both tricks!
As mentionned by Fentex, after have applied the first trick, another problem was still there : the top-border of the fieldset that overflows to the right.
I simply deleted the top border and thanks to the background applied to my fieldset i don&#039;t need to add any other trick!!
This is just perfect!
Thanks so much x)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for both tricks!
As mentionned by Fentex, after have applied the first trick, another problem was still there : the top-border of the fieldset that overflows to the right.
I simply deleted the top border and thanks to the background applied to my fieldset i don&#8217;t need to add any other trick!!
This is just perfect!
Thanks so much x)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chanteur06</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanteur06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wonderful ! TKS a lot!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful ! TKS a lot!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: לימודי הנדסת מכונות</title>
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		<dc:creator>לימודי הנדסת מכונות</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Finally a solution!! Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally a solution!! Thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;mine was a bit more intense, ended up using position:static to fix it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mine was a bit more intense, ended up using position:static to fix it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: A CSS Hack for Internet Explorer 8 at From the Code Mill</title>
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		<dc:creator>A CSS Hack for Internet Explorer 8 at From the Code Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] decided to test it out on the infamous fieldset &#8211; legend IE bug.¬† The display issue came to my attention not by IE, which had been fixed using the usual [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] decided to test it out on the infamous fieldset &#8211; legend IE bug.¬† The display issue came to my attention not by IE, which had been fixed using the usual [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The fundemental problem with fieldset legends is that they can&#039;t be rendered using CSS to style them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way legends appear for fieldsets requires displaying partial transparencies just not supported by any CSS standard (they have to be transparent, but not to borders).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thus each browser manufacturer has created their own solution to how to display fieldsets with legends.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The method here generally works but fails when certain borders are specified because IE still leaks a borders width above the top border.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way to fix that problem is to not give the fieldset a top border and use a x repeating background image in it&#039;s stead.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundemental problem with fieldset legends is that they can&#8217;t be rendered using CSS to style them.</p>

<p>The way legends appear for fieldsets requires displaying partial transparencies just not supported by any CSS standard (they have to be transparent, but not to borders).</p>

<p>Thus each browser manufacturer has created their own solution to how to display fieldsets with legends.</p>

<p>The method here generally works but fails when certain borders are specified because IE still leaks a borders width above the top border.</p>

<p>The way to fix that problem is to not give the fieldset a top border and use a x repeating background image in it&#8217;s stead.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mirko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the nice trick!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice trick!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pnanh</title>
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		<dc:creator>pnanh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 14:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks yours tip&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks yours tip</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: thetooman</title>
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		<dc:creator>thetooman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It appears the iE8 has some weird different spacing.  My ugly solution was contitional commenting  thusly:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;fieldset legend { 
    position: absolute; 
/* all ie browsers except .. */ 
    top: -0.8em;
left: 0.7em;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;/* ... ie6,7 &lt;a href=&quot;http://paulirish.com/2009/browser-specific-css-hacks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://paulirish.com/2009/browser-specific-css-ha...&lt;/a&gt; */ 
    *top: -0.5em; 
    *left: 0.2em; 
}&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears the iE8 has some weird different spacing.  My ugly solution was contitional commenting  thusly:</p>

<p>fieldset legend { 
    position: absolute; 
/* all ie browsers except .. */ 
    top: -0.8em;
left: 0.7em;</p>

<p>/* &#8230; ie6,7 <a href="http://paulirish.com/2009/browser-specific-css-hacks/" rel="nofollow">http://paulirish.com/2009/browser-specific-css-ha&#8230;</a> */ 
    *top: -0.5em; 
    *left: 0.2em; 
}</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sedat Kumcu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sedat Kumcu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this article. Best regards man.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article. Best regards man.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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